With Memory A45 and KB6
DTC B2508 or B2509 (With Memory A45 and KB6)
Diagnostic Instructions
* Perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle prior to using this diagnostic procedure.
* Review Strategy Based Diagnosis Strategy Based Diagnosis for an overview of the diagnostic approach.
* Diagnostic Procedure Instructions Diagnostic Procedure Instructions provides an overview of each diagnostic category.
DTC Descriptors
DTC B2508 01
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Seat Heater Relay Circuit Short to Battery
DTC B2508 02
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Seat Heater Relay Circuit Short to Ground
Diagnostic Fault Information
Circuit/System Description
The driver and front passenger heated seat heating elements are controlled by a common high current relay internal to the memory seat module (MSM) and the low side by the element control circuit. The MSM connects the heated seat heater element supply voltage circuits for both seats to a common reference point. This reference point is biased to approximately 2.0 volts. Before the MSM will allow heated seat operation, it checks to see if this reference voltage is shorted to ground or battery voltage. Once the MSM verifies that it is not closing to a shorted heating element, it allows heated seat operation. After which it continues to monitor for a shorted circuit.
Conditions for Running the DTC
The MSM must be powered.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
B2508 01
Before the heated seats are activated, the MSM detects a short to battery voltage on the seat heating element supply voltage circuit or control circuit.
B2508 02
Before the heated seats are activated, the MSM detects a short to ground on the seat heating element supply voltage circuit or control circuit.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
The heated seat function for both the driver and passenger seats will be disabled.
Conditions for Clearing the DTC
* The current DTC clears when the malfunction is no longer present and the power mode changes to OFF then back to ACC or RUN.
* The history DTC will clear after 50 consecutive fault-free ignition cycles have occurred.
Reference Information
Schematic Reference
Heated/Cooled Seat Schematics (Except A45) Heated/Cooled Seat SchematicsHeated/Cooled Seat Schematics (With KA1) Heated/Cooled Seat Schematics (With KA1)Heated/Cooled Seat Schematics (With KB6) Heated/Cooled Seat Schematics (With KB6)
Connector End View Reference
Component Connector End Views A/C Compressor Clutch
Description and Operation
Heated Seats Description and Operation Heated Seats
Electrical Information Reference
* Circuit Testing Circuit Testing
* Connector Repairs Connector Repairs
* Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections
* Wiring Repairs Wiring Repairs
Scan Tool Reference
Control Module References Programming and Relearning for scan tool information
Circuit/System Testing
1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the X1, X4 harness connectors at the MSM.
2. Test for infinite resistance between the control circuit terminal 6 X1 and ground.
• If not the specified value, test the control circuit for a short to ground.
3. Test for infinite resistance between the control circuit terminal 14 X1 and ground.
• If not the specified value, test the control circuit for a short to ground.
4. Ignition ON, verify that a test lamp does not illuminate between the control circuit terminal 6 X1 and ground.
• If the test lamp illuminates, test the control circuit for a short to voltage.
5. Ignition ON, verify that a test lamp does not illuminate between the control circuit terminal 14 X1 and ground.
• If the test lamp illuminates, test the control circuit for a short to voltage.
6. If all circuits test normal, replace the MSM.
Repair Instructions
Perform the Diagnostic Repair Verification Verification Tests after completing the diagnostic procedure.
* Driver or Passenger Seat Back Cushion Heater Replacement Driver or Passenger Seat Back Cushion Heater Replacement
* Driver or Passenger Seat Cushion Heater Replacement (Passenger) Driver or Passenger Seat Cushion Heater Replacement (Passenger)Driver or Passenger Seat Cushion Heater Replacement (Driver) Driver or Passenger Seat Cushion Heater Replacement (Driver)
* Control Module References Programming and Relearning for MSM replacement, setup, and programming